Verdi in name and fact, but they are clean from dirt they themselves created. The
VerdiToscana.it have deleted all the comments on Article Chemtrails: you know what? .
like to think that eventually they realized the bad impression, maybe some slap came from someone in the headquarters of the party. Poor Mary Heibel
author has also caught the reprimand (in their own way) than those Perle conspiracy.
More than 200 comments made to disappear, but the article remains. I thought it was a bad sign, although in reality the link is still working, the article can not be reached otherwise, the search function on the site not indexed ...
Someone a little shame must have tried it.
Because I love archiving and cancellations can not stand hypocrites, they keep track here, putting the link to the page that you saved a couple of days before cleaning. There are 212 comments (March 13).
The corner of VerdiToscana (with comments)
On 14 March I wrote two comments. These were not published, I guess along with others. On 16
be published a commentary by a teacher of mathematics and physics (not the physical beast Pen! :) And a glider pilot. The following three comments
author Mary Heibel that 'this close parentheses "(I guess with a little redness in the face) and that would seem (?) Wanted to turn the omelet, pretending anything, simply pointing your finger on the" disturbing " contrails of aircraft and traffic pollution in the skies.
Below I copy my two interventions censored (if someone else has not seen published tell me that I add them), and the last five.
Michele on 14/03/2009:
What is real and that we can all see is due to the change of the day (if you will call) traffic!
Why deny something that we see and all we see?!
Why deny the obvious?
[...] Everyone can see this change "climate."
E 'obvious. Needless to say we need to do research! do I search the Internet? WE SEE YOU! and we wonder what we're seeing! [...]
The reality is that the beautiful blue sky days and then become white gray days, the passage of many aircraft issuing these persistent contrails that expand and unite and become more compact and accumulate!
Ohssignur!
This is a classic (On which some sharp operators tricking us march to ensnare the naive duty), the confusion between cause and effect.
For several million years (!) There are clouds on Earth. These include the high clouds layered (eg cirrostratus). They are formed naturally from the atmosphere when there is!
A teacher taught me in elementary school about the water cycle: thus the soil heating by the sun and evaporation of the water ... You see that I was lucky to have that teacher, bah ...
conditions that are created and there are those high clouds are layered with the same conditions that make the continuation of aircraft contrails. Strange huh, since clouds are always those trails!
Cause and effect.
are NOT contrails of the air layer to create the "dark" the sun.
are the favorable conditions are created so that fans and consequently the cirrostratus fan so that even the contrails persist.
must be made to not get there alone this lily ...
And maybe some research is also needed.
PS:
@ anonymous, I am pleased to note that a little modesty can to get it, and after that somebody has pointed out, at least now you do not sign more as an engineer (ie lying).
Michele on 14/03/2009:
at the time I had done an experiment to see if it was realistic to say, I saw how often do, that there were trails almost every day, for most of the day, intersections, etc..
The method is simple and logical:
observe the sky.
I realize I am a strange person, who is not satisfied of feelings, stories of cousins, and who wants to understand and verify.
forgive me:)
Giancarlo Albricci on 16/03/2009:
I am a physicist by training, I teach mathematics and physics in secondary schools for many years and for many years I find myself confronting the Net as "theories" that are propagated more imaginative critics without filters and without the necessary studies. On this matter of the phantom chemtrails I can only congratulate Gianni Comoretto for showing infinite patience in responding in a polite and inconsistent with scientific evidence to the arguments from the scientific point of view of the "adversarial". Who runs this site I only have one question to ask: do you think that giving clear evidence of little or no scientific ungrateful, make room for imaginary and improbable plots, denigrate scientists and competent people is a useful thing to the green movement? I think not. I believe that demonstrations of absolute incompetent so obviously can only do harm to a movement of this kind. Then continue to do well if you like, but do not make us a better figure.
Daniel Orlandi on 16/03/2009:
Hello, I'm Daniel and I am a glider pilot. According to
sciachimisti chemtrails are delivered at low altitude. I fly regularly between 1000 and 2500 meters and beyond. Why in the 150-hour flight that I have accumulated so far I have never seen an airplane contrails download to my shares? Why they did not see all my fellow glider pilots? And my friends motor drivers? And passengers on scheduled flights? And why not, the altitude training?
I'll tell you why: because there are no chemtrails, are the result of paranoia and misinformation.
And now you tell me (as is already happened) that I get paid to keep quiet ...
maria heibel on 03/16/2009:
note the surprising result came to be in the forefront of the hit parade of so-called followers of the theories of conspiracy and with complottasti the stamp of sciachimista. Before my introduction to ask, "What do the contrails in the sky" that would be invitation to reflection and discussion due to my own concern at the sky changed dramatically and I suppose I was a polluted voice totally unknown. Within a few days the known mechanisms of the Web have given me a whole new Google profile.
I groped to bring the topic of the trails at a point where their safety is being addressed in a less controversial and well known. Strangely, this aspect is neglected in the discussion beyond the forum. Taken from the site
http://www.scienzaonline.com propose the inclusion in the discussions the following article.
[put only the link, Mary had copiaincollato full article: link]
and add:
Air Pollution: EU calls for more emphasis on companies
[Full copiaincollata other. I put the link ]
maria heibel on 16/03/2009:
I would like to bring the discussions to a level where we consider that air traffic is still a problem certainly not indifferent to be included in the issues of 'global pollution.
Velature water evaporated as harmless or release does not feature some of those hoods cloud over our heads.
Dealing with the important things was the invitation several times in this forum. Dealing with the problem of contrails research institutes around the world, so the argument is not a negligible aspect in the discussion of the catastrophic changes that announces our living conditions. A blanket
artificial created by a large air traffic should be a matter of truly integrated into the cocktail of causes and contributing factors that lead us towards ever greater imbalances environment. But despite the almost daily thanks to the invitation to take account of provocative signs left before us is not. And why?
maria heibel on 03/16/2009:
I've gained in these days many reflections. Those who follow the forum passively or actively has had so many ideas he or she.
I would like to close my account that parentheses and leave the room for what follows.
thank the Greens and all those who have contributed to a strong world that is our sky and helped to focus really more complex than they seem.
I leave to those who want to take a moment a greeting through an imported Tuscan like me - maybe a little 'more doc, and certainly the most illustrious
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCNJBopK25I&NR=1
Fields of gold ... ...
